April 21, 2009...10:26 pm

We Do/Do Not Torture: The Mark Thiessen Debate

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The original WaPo editorial:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/20/AR2009042002818.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

Andrew Sullivan states that it is the application of pain and suffering, not the individual methods themselves, that defines torture.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/04/mark-thiessen-it-was-torture.html#more

Steven Benen discusses the assertion that the torture was actually helping the detainees, by helping them do their duty to Allah.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_04/017846.php

Michelle Malkin notes the change in the President’s position on prosecutions, while excerpting the Thieseen op-ed.

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/04/21/another-day-another-obama-flip-flop/

4/22/09 UPDATE:

Timothy Noah asserts that Thiessen and others have the wrong chronology in using the plot to bomb the Library Tower as a justification for these techniques:

http://www.slate.com/id/2216601/

Anyone else talking? Put link in comments.

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